Sunday, September 22, 2013
Saturday, September 21, 2013
Why I Believe In The Trinity # 4)......deno
.....Jesus came down from heaven to the earth to bear witness to the truth. From the bosom of His Father he was sent (which also means from the hidden place) to shed abroad his knowings to the world. He said I speak unto you of heavenly things. He said I testify to you of things I have seen, heard, and know. But he also said, "not every one receives my witness, my testimonies, nor believes Me."
One of the startling things Jesus testified to, which also gives us more light on the trinity, on the THREE that bear their record in heaven (1st John 5:7), we find gleaming from John 6:38) here Jesus said....I came down FROM HEAVEN not to do MY WILL but the WILL OF HIM that sent me." Here out of Christ own mouth (and it is impossible for the Lord to lie or to mislead), Jesus testifies that he was with the Father in heaven in the paradise of God...Note- (His physical body that he became clothed with in Mary's womb was not with the Father in the paradise of God before he came down from heaven. It was not even formed yet. His body, his flesh never came down from heaven. Now it did end up going up to heaven, but it did not come down from heaven. It was formed in Mary's womb. So from this knowledge we know clearly that it was not the man, nor the flesh speaking here, but the Eternal of John 1:1-14 and of Hebrews 7:3 having no beginning of days, neither ending of days, but was with the Father from eternity). He testifies that the Father sent him from that high and lofty place in Glory from far above and he also reveals and makes known to us in this verse of revealing light that his own Self and individuality is one and the Fathers Self and individuality is truly another.
For here brothers and sister in this scripture we are given from the mouth of Jesus himself, that he has his own personal will and the Father has his own personal will and that these two wills are independent from the other except by submission....He said, for I came down FROM HEAVEN not to do MY WILL but the WILL OF HIM (the Father vs 37-40) that sent me..
Now even though we see in this light the revelation of the Sons own will and the Fathers separate own will (IN HEAVEN), we can't just leave it there without engrafting some beautiful love light of the Two. For the Father and the Son, though they posses two separate wills as Jesus revealed to us in these scriptures, they TWO walk as One. As it is written, How can two walk together unless they agree, and believe me, THEY CERTAINLY PERFECTLY AGREE.
From this verse comes the connection of the writing of John in 1st John 5:7-8 wherein John, in part, is striving to unveil the beauty of the glory of the Godheads great love and harmony & agreement glory saying,"vs7) For there are THREE that bear record (means gives their witness) in heaven (then he makes full separate identification of the THREE in heaven), he writes, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost; and these THREE are one...Using the number one here, was not a carnal use of the word as to mean simply numerical, but his focus was on the power of their harmony and agreement. They AGREE AS ONE IN ALL THEY DO AND SAY. vs 8) And there are THREE that bear witness on earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood AND THESE THREE AGREE AS ONE.
Now people have argued that here in vs 7 that the revelation of what John is saying here is that the three in heaven, the Father and Jesus the Son and the Holy Ghost are all one and the same person. I totally disagree and here is why. The next verse clarifies to us that that argument is not correct. For in the next verse we have John saying that there are also THREE that bear record on earth; then he mentions them also to us separately. He says the Spirit, The Water, and the Blood. Friends put your spiritual thinking cap on here so that what is being disclosed here, it dawns on you. The Spirit is not the Water and the Water is not the Blood. Lets see you drink a glass of water and then a glass of blood. I assure you there is a sure and complete difference between the two. But in their witness, in there personal witness and record and testimonies they AGREE AS ONE IN GLORIFYING THE SON AND THAT GOD SENT HIS SON INTO THE WORLD TO BE THE SAVIOR THEREOF... AMEN......deno
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One of the startling things Jesus testified to, which also gives us more light on the trinity, on the THREE that bear their record in heaven (1st John 5:7), we find gleaming from John 6:38) here Jesus said....I came down FROM HEAVEN not to do MY WILL but the WILL OF HIM that sent me." Here out of Christ own mouth (and it is impossible for the Lord to lie or to mislead), Jesus testifies that he was with the Father in heaven in the paradise of God...Note- (His physical body that he became clothed with in Mary's womb was not with the Father in the paradise of God before he came down from heaven. It was not even formed yet. His body, his flesh never came down from heaven. Now it did end up going up to heaven, but it did not come down from heaven. It was formed in Mary's womb. So from this knowledge we know clearly that it was not the man, nor the flesh speaking here, but the Eternal of John 1:1-14 and of Hebrews 7:3 having no beginning of days, neither ending of days, but was with the Father from eternity). He testifies that the Father sent him from that high and lofty place in Glory from far above and he also reveals and makes known to us in this verse of revealing light that his own Self and individuality is one and the Fathers Self and individuality is truly another.
For here brothers and sister in this scripture we are given from the mouth of Jesus himself, that he has his own personal will and the Father has his own personal will and that these two wills are independent from the other except by submission....He said, for I came down FROM HEAVEN not to do MY WILL but the WILL OF HIM (the Father vs 37-40) that sent me..
Now even though we see in this light the revelation of the Sons own will and the Fathers separate own will (IN HEAVEN), we can't just leave it there without engrafting some beautiful love light of the Two. For the Father and the Son, though they posses two separate wills as Jesus revealed to us in these scriptures, they TWO walk as One. As it is written, How can two walk together unless they agree, and believe me, THEY CERTAINLY PERFECTLY AGREE.
From this verse comes the connection of the writing of John in 1st John 5:7-8 wherein John, in part, is striving to unveil the beauty of the glory of the Godheads great love and harmony & agreement glory saying,"vs7) For there are THREE that bear record (means gives their witness) in heaven (then he makes full separate identification of the THREE in heaven), he writes, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost; and these THREE are one...Using the number one here, was not a carnal use of the word as to mean simply numerical, but his focus was on the power of their harmony and agreement. They AGREE AS ONE IN ALL THEY DO AND SAY. vs 8) And there are THREE that bear witness on earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood AND THESE THREE AGREE AS ONE.
Now people have argued that here in vs 7 that the revelation of what John is saying here is that the three in heaven, the Father and Jesus the Son and the Holy Ghost are all one and the same person. I totally disagree and here is why. The next verse clarifies to us that that argument is not correct. For in the next verse we have John saying that there are also THREE that bear record on earth; then he mentions them also to us separately. He says the Spirit, The Water, and the Blood. Friends put your spiritual thinking cap on here so that what is being disclosed here, it dawns on you. The Spirit is not the Water and the Water is not the Blood. Lets see you drink a glass of water and then a glass of blood. I assure you there is a sure and complete difference between the two. But in their witness, in there personal witness and record and testimonies they AGREE AS ONE IN GLORIFYING THE SON AND THAT GOD SENT HIS SON INTO THE WORLD TO BE THE SAVIOR THEREOF... AMEN......deno
Friday, September 20, 2013
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