Why I Beleive In The Trinity # 3)...Father, Son & Holy Spirit.......deno

   In our previous segment of my trinity writing we talked about how on the mount of transfiguration Jesus began to shine from the inside out, from his eternal power, might, and life that was within that physical body. The Word had become flesh and dwelt amongst us and we beheld his glory John wrote. Well surely on that great mountain of grace he John, Peter and James beheld the inner heavenly glory of the Son of God as he began to glisten and shine brighter than any white or light that they had ever seen or knew of (Luke 9:28-35/Mark 9:2-9). Then also the Father in a great cloud of HIS OWN divine witness began to shine overshadowing them and Jesus on that mount and said, "Jesus is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased with, hear ye him."
     Now we said in the last writing that in the next spread of the ink we were going to find out just when did the Father start calling Jesus His Son or when was it that Jesus was known as the Son of God. Was it just on earth or was it in heaven as well before the foundation of the world or before all the creation. We said we were going to find out was Jesus ever know as or called the Son of God before he became flesh and dwelt bodily amongst us and that if we do find FROM THE SCRIPTURES THAT JESUS was known and called the Son of God before the foundation of the world, then we could in all honesty know him to be the ETERNAL SON OF GOD WITHOUT BEGINNING OF DAYS NEITHER ENDING OF DAYS. ONE WHO LIKE THE FATHER ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND EVER SHALL BE, AND HAS ALWAYS ENJOYED HIS ETERNAL PLACE IN THE GODHEAD OF THE THREE THAT THE SCRIPTURES DECLARE BEAR THEIR RECORD IN HEAVEN AS FATHER, SON & HOLY GHOST. That he has always been WITH THE FATHER sharing all the Fathers Alpha and Omega glory, attributes and status AS THE HEIR OF THE MIGHTY THRONE.
    Well let's look at some scriptures and see what is revealed. In John the 17th chapter Jesus is now in prayer action. He is soon to taste the cross to fulfill the written scriptures of the sufferings of the Christ. But in this particular prayer we find to our amazement that he is not pouting before the Father of the pains soon to become him, but rather he, in his faith eye, has endured the cross with victory and now he is asking the Father to once again glorify him and then he zeros the thrones attention on to  the church, on those who believe and belong to him which also includes you and I.
     In verse 4 Jesus says to his Father, Father I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished what you commanded of  me. Now Father I ask......this which Jesus is about to ask is not of flesh and blood origin. These words are not the words of Peter or James. They are not the words of Paul or Matthew or of Barnabas. They are not the words of the baptist denomination. They are not the words of the catholic denomination. They are not the words of any pentecostal denomination but they are the words of Jesus Christ himself. Do you suppose he knows more about heaven, heavenly things and things of the Godhead than you or I? Most certainly he does. He came down from heaven (John 6:37-40). He is Lord. Well lets see what he knows of himself and of the Father. 
     Verse 5 in Jesus' own words....And now O Father, (What Father? Our Father which art in heaven) glorify thou me with YOUR OWN SELF (Means Individual Self-Important word there. Important point there) with the glory which I HAD * WITH YOU*BEFORE THE WORLD WAS). A glory that Jesus is presently without as he prays he is asking the Father to replenish. He tells us that he (HIS OWN SELF, HIS OWN INDIVIDUAL SELF WAS WITH HIS FATHER BEFORE THE WORLD WAS). We know this was not the man/the bodies words because his body, the man part of Jesus by no means was with the Father before the world began. His body, the flesh that he became wrapped in in the womb of Mary, did not come into being until thousands of years AFTER the world was created. No, this was an Eternal Being and Eternal Son in the light of his greater than all heavenly knowings, reaching out to His Father that he loved and knew so well in prayer. This was a holy One of God that was WITH GOD before anything in heaven or earth was made (John 1:1-14). This was One who before Abraham was, existed.
This was a Son who existed before the Creation speaking of what he knew of perfectly and of what was now missing and of what was needing to be replenished into his Self by the Fathers Self....He prayed. And now O Father, glorify thou me with YOUR  OWN SELF  with the glory that I (MYSELF) had with You, with You, with You before the foundation of the world....
      Brethren we can most surely bank on these above words of Jesus the eternal Sons divine witness. That The Fathers Self is one self and the Sons Self is another Self. We could also pray his prayer using these words and be heavenly accurate.  And now O Father, You glorify MY SELF with Your OWN SELF with the glory that MY SELF had with YOUR SELF before the foundation of the world. This may startle some people, but it is heavenly ACCURATE. 
    Like water perfectly mixes with water so does Jesus' own heavenly mix and blend with His Fathers heavenly. Yet in this great Godhead Power Mixing they talk to one another  as Father and Son and always have saying things like LET US MAKE..... Then they can UNMIX and Jesus (Jesus' heavenly self) can be sent and come down from heaven to earth, be enwrapped in flesh and pay a tremendous price for the redemption of man and SO THE SON DID. The Father that sent him gave him that commandment and that great redeeming mission. I am so glad he did. I hope these words helped you and blessed you.....deno....please share freely...more to come...